Subject:Fight
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Entry 919
I had a son named Addison and he and myself was away in Pennsylvania and he went to New Jersey. And when he got out of a job I wrote him a letter to come on out here [where the father was in Pennsylvania] and he'd get all the work he Wanted. And he came then. And he taken with going with a young lady and this lady fixed him. And I brought him home [to Stafford County, Virginia]. And when I brought him home he breaken out with sores all over one side. This girl told him that if he didn't marry her he wouldn't do nobody no good. And I taken him to a fortune teller and he ask the boy what he wanted done. And the boy told him he wanted this taken off of him and put on /the person who put it on him. And I said to him [the fortune tellerl. "What could you do with a person three or four hundred miles away from here?" And he say, "I could send this just as far as the wind blowed." And I said, "Don't let it come close to me." But he said, "I can't get the one who fixed this [doctor who prepared the spell] but I will get the one [girl] who put it down for you." This girl what put it down for you." This girl what put it down, she was rolling up her sleeves to wash her clothes and she fell backwards and died right there.
Entry 7228
[I met a galaxy of doctors in Charleston, S. Car., before I had suffi- cient experience to handle them. Two years later I would have been better pre- pared. Moreover the weather was excessively hot and the hotel rooms noisy at night. There was little rest. The fol- lowing doctor, Maguin or San Mongain was rather strange. At that time I thought all of them were! This man has already appeared in: No.1221, p.434; No.1417, p.464; No.1638, p.507; and No.2209, p.629.] (Well, now, how would a person harm me if they got a hold of my foot track? How would they hurt me with that?) How would he hurt chew wit dat? He'd take yore foot track an' carry it tuh de graveyard. An' tuh take it back from de graveyard, yo' gotta throw dis dirty watah undah yore house. An' tuh kill de spell from dere an' [to] drive de evil spirit, den begin burnin' dragon blood at twelve o'clock at night in dat ole shoe [this rite partially given in No.1221, p.434, v.1.]. (What would he do with this track if he took it to the graveyard? What would he do with it out there?) When he take de track to de graveyard, he put it tuh de haid of de graveyard [grave] an' pay dem one cent, calls yore name an' tole 'em tuh mind 'im. An' durin' de time dat he done take it tuh de graveyard, yore foot track, yo' come back home an' throw it ovah [under]neath yore house. An' go an' git dis gum-bush an' let it stay in yore house fer three days an' burn it. An' de pusson will come back an' go back tuh de graveyard an' git dis track an' turn yo' loose.
Entry 8518
Now when a man and a woman are together and some other party wants them completely separated for good, wants to break them up completely, they buy them a new cocoanut. And they punch the three eyes out of that cocoanut and leave the milk in. And they write those two peoples' names the same as they do when they're going to the crossroads ["they'll write the man's name nine times and then they write the woman's crossing nine times" - from the same cylinder, 1574:3 somewhere in text]. And cross each other and they curse them for everything they can think of, and they fold that paper tight and stick it down in the hole of that cocoanut. Then they put anything that purges, like Epsom salts, or black draught. And they put pepper sauce in there, something very hot - pepper sauce and red peppers. And they put salt in there and saltpeter. And they write those two persons' names across each other, like this, on three separate pieces of paper, and fill the eyes of that cocoa- nut. And then at 12 o'clock at night they go to the river and throw it over their left shoulder. And if that black draught and that different stuff in that cocoanut begin to work, you know when it gets stale.it'll work, those two people begin fussing and fighting, and within a period of nine days they're absolutely separated. And there's a whole lot in that. [Memphis, Tenn., (973), 1574:5.] Those cocoanuts.
(Different from what you told me?)
Yes, just a little different. They use gunpowder instead of the salt and pepper and stuff like that. That makes people mean and drift and they can't have any luck at anything at all they do. [This woman is marked excellent pro- fessional. She was from Shreveport, La.] [Memphis, Tenn., (973), 1577:2. The first reference for this rite Was given in the text.]
Entry 10875
(Well, now, how would these people make you move out? What would they do to make you move out?) Oh, that. That is very easily done. You see, you kin take - you know, two tom cats fights whenever they meets. Well, they kin git to you very easily. You git two tomcats - their manure. That [is the] frontyard there and that [is the] front porch. I will take, if I wanted to do you harm, I would take my left hand any time at night and I will probably throw it [manure] over that porch or over dat front yard where you gotta cross for to come into the porch. I will throw it thataway, see, as I'm going on up. I would walk de lenk [length] of that porch or de lenk of the front yard. I will take my hand, the left hand, and throw thataway, and don't ever look back. Well, you bound to cross it. Well you, if you stay there, you'll stay there in trouble; tormented forever and you'll be glad to get out, because them two tomcats - just like they was fight- ing all the time, that will keep you like that.
(I see, but you have to get the two tomcats.)
Yeah, the two tomcats. Well you take them two and you kin [do] enything and break up enybody - break up eny home.
Entry 10903
Well, yo' take de hair off a bad dog's back, de hair off a cat's back, an' take a woman's underwear when it's dirty, an' wash it, taking dat watah an' applyin' it wit dat hair off de dog's back an' off de cat's back, an' puttin' turpentine wit it, an' shuttin' de bottle up, an' throw it in de Miss'ippi Rivah. It will cause one de greatest rows in dat house yo' evah did see.
Entry 10906
Take the - like they got a white dog. Well, you see, they [white dogs] make white - white stuff you know, down here. Well, you take that [white manure] and when that's dry, get the dirt dau- ber and get that cay- enne pepper, Epso salts, black pepper, salt, and red pepper- the red cayenne pep- per. You [know] the regular red cayenne pepper. And take some of the hair out of the dog's back and some out of the cat's back. You know cats and dogs can't agree. You know they'll fight. Well, they put all that together and fix it up, and then throw it around peoples' houses and make them fight.
Entry 10911
Dog manure an' dog hair - see, dey gotta git dat dog an' cat tuh fightin'; see, if yo' Wanta separate a man an' a woman. See, yo' git - lak mah, ah have two little white dogs now. Well, yo' git a cat an' git dem tuh fightin' an' clip de hair right quick while dey both mad. Yo' put dat tuhgethah, dat cat hair 'de dog hair, an' dog manure an' cat manure, an' rat manure. Well, yo' ba de three things don' git along, don't chew? Yo' know de cat hates de rat 'de dog hates de cat. So yo' throw dat in dere. It really separate any man wife an' it will make 'em move. Throw it in de room, jis' lak ah come in ah. Fo' instance, ah wanta have sompin in mah han'. Ah could be sittin' heah 'd coald be jis' sprinklin' it aroun'. [I replaced the original four-letter odd by amure.]
Entry 10913
Jes' lak if yo' got a dog an' a cat - ain't chew seen two dogs and two cats meet, an' de cat make up his bristles an' de dog make up his bristles? An' while dey got dere bristles made up, yo'll git de hair behin' both of 'em's neck, see; an' put it in a piece of cloth an' fold up de cloth, an' pin nine straight pins in it - one each way. See [demonstrates] pin one in it [cloth] dat way - an' one in it dat way [heads and points, alternated] an' dat jes' will make 'em fuss an' fight. (Well, now what do they do with that cloth after they pin it up? Where do they put that?) Yo' tote dat in yore pocket, see. When dey git together jes' lak dat dog an' cat fight yo' see; jes' fuss an' fight, be mad [every] time dey see one 'nother. Do dat wit de hair. (But they have to get near one another.) [Here without suggesting an answer, I am asking informant how all these concerns the two victims. Do they walk over Package? Is it thrown into their house? Does he name pins them? Without some such device all this is done by informant's intention.]
Entry 12153
Ah heard of a person takin' a hickory stick an' if dey give - jes' 1 lak yo' an' dem in a fight or sompin lak dat. Well, dey hit chew wit dat stick, an' dey take dat stick an' bury dat stick an' call yore name three times. An' dey tell me dat in nine days - ah didn't see dis done, but ah heard some people say dey have witness de same thing. Dey say in nine days dat person will be dead.
(All you do is hit that person with the stick?)
An' call dere name an' bury dat stick by de man's relative dat las' died, yo' know, in de graveyard. But chew bury it right by de person dat las' died, an' call dere name.
(Call the name of the person you hit?)
Yessuh. An' in nine days, why, if dey don't drop dead, dey jes' die sudden.
Entry 12440
You take a mockingbird.
(A mockingbird?)
Yeah, you take a mockingbird egg and a canary bird egg, and you put them twd eggs in a bottle together. And you take a person's name and you put alcohol on that, but you mark the name in initials and you put it in a good bottle. [One bottle is used in this rite.] (You just put their ini- tials on that?) Yeah, and you put it down in that bottle and shake it with that person's [name] that you don't like or do [person who has done] you something. It will just make 'em talk all over from their mouth, send them to jail, give them trouble, make them get in a fight and get in trouble.
(You say this will make them talk?)
Make them talk aplenty, make them get in trouble.
(Well, why does it make them talk?)
Well, you see, the two birds don't agree - make 'em chatter.
Entry 127
My mother said that when she was a young girl [during slavery], a house girl, she used to have to sit up and wait for her mistress and master to come home. She had to serve ice water. She seen two graveyards fighting each other - they were throwing balls of fire, they were fighting.
Entry 159
When a whirlwind is in front of yore do', goin' whirl roun' lak dis, it's a sign of fights - someone gon'a fight.
Entry 166
Sometime dey say it's confusion, sometime dey say death; but whensomevah yo' see dat whirlwind go round an' round lak dat, yo' watch it an' dere'll be a fuss or a fight or somebody probably git killed, jes' where it stop. Dat's whut dey say about dat.
(Do you know what they used to say about that?)
Yeah. Well, dey say some ole devil died dere, somepin lak dat - yo' know, some bad person. Some evil spirit or somepin lak dat. Dat's whut dey call dat evil spirit.
Entry 926
Once upon a time there was a party going on and the boys of course was drinking as usual and a fight arose among them, and in the meantime they were fighting this woman's brother. So of course she went in to take her brother's part and she hit one of the men with her fist. So of course that roused the curiosity [animosity] of the man's mother, so nuthin she thought on but to cunjure this woman. So they met at an all day meeting [at church]. So just at the time of dinner [noon meal] this young man's mother fixed the special dinner for the woman who hit her son in time past. And of course she fixed a plate for this woman and asked her to eat at once before the crowd came. And she insisted several times, so many times that the woman suspected. And I looked in the plate which she was 'about to eat and the food it looked very peculiar - looked like corn bread and butter mashed together on the same plate with other food, cabbage and so forth. So she looked at it so hard until the woman said, "There's nuthin to hurt you." This woman didn't eat it. And the woman who fixed [cunjured] the plate was taken sick the next Sunday and died shortly afterwards. She might of gotten the same plate by mistake. The cunjure from King George [County, Virginia] who was doing the work [cunjuration] for her [the mother], he also died shortly after the woman died. The day he was buried, the same night, he came to the woman's house for whom he had fixed the dose, and he appeared in his own form and look. He stood on the steps and leaned over the bannister and looked at this woman, and the dog howled and run under the house, there was a whirlwind, and frighten the Woman out of her wits. And the woman didn't even know he was dead until the next day: He come because he didn't get the dose on the woman and he wanted to get in there and complete the job. [It was quite evident even before the narrator began, from the hilarity and repartee of her family, that she would be the chief actor in the story, which happened about 1911 in Stafford County. Her attempt at anonymity broke down when she became excited and revealed her identity by saying, "I looked in the plate."]
Entry 2074
This love powder, just love powder, you have to put it in food to give a person to eat it. That makes them in a length of time the more they give 'em the more stronger the love gets. See. And if you don't check off it, they'll love you so sincerely they love to kill yuh; and you won't have nuthin like that to be done, because it's a wonderful thing [if used properly], but it's still and all [dangerous]. Now, if you Wanta fightin' powder - that fightin' powder will make you fight and always make you fight till you kill one another.
Entry 2377
Dey say yo' kin cross 'em like that.
(How do they do that?)
They take and make the mark this Way [demonstrates by drawing a cross mark] and then they go to the drug store an' git de water dat dey sell, called war water, and pour it around yore do' and that will cause confusion and fighting - disagreeable, even until you move.
(They pour this war water right in the mark of the cross?)
Yes, sir - right in this way, right at chure door, and that will create con- fusion and you will have to leave. [See Marks, p.254.]
Entry 10643
Take red ant an' a dirt dauber an' put it together an' yo' kin make People fight an' leave one 'nothah. Yo' throw 'em right down in de road right in front of dey do'. (What do you mean, the ant itself or his nest?) Git up de ant hisself an' at him up, an' use de dirt-dauber's dirt - his nest.
Entry 9500
(Take salt and do what with it?)
Sprinkle it in de house. Dat make, yo' know, fuss an' fight.
Entry 1919
Now when yo' go to de graveyard, yo' go dere on de full of de moon or de first quarter. Yo' hear anybody talkin' 'bout gwine tuh de graveyard, gittin' dirt, dere ain't nobody knows whut tuh do wit it, it don't do's em good. Go down at de full of de moon or de first quarter. Go down dere. Yo' ain't comin' in dere dis way, understand - yo' see, yo' don't wanta go tuh de right, de right's always good; yo' wanta go tuh de left all de time. Yo' see, dere's nuthin good in de devil's work - always go tuh de left. Yo' go tuh de left, yo' walk in dere, in de cemetery on de left side as yo' enter lak dat, an' if yo' know anybody, yore friend or nuthin lak dat, dat'a bad fellah or something lak dat, yo' know where he's buried an' dat, yo' walk in tuh de left of yo', an' jes' go right on ovah, don't say a word. Take yo' five cents or ten cents - well, de ten cents is bestes', it's silver. Take yo' ten cents an' sit down an' dig down as fur as yore arm will go down in dat grave up to heah. Go on down as fur as it is, keep plowin' down in dere wit yore arm till yo' git down dat deep - way down. Yo' says dese words, says, "Ah didn't come tuh steal, ah didn't come tuh walk [I am not out here for exercise], but ah come honest an' wit faith an' truth, tellin' yo' de truth" - talkin' to de dead man - "tellin' yo' de truth, dog-gone it, an' ah wan'a git some of yore earth dat's yo's buried undah. Ah'm not stealin' it, ah wan'a borrow it, an' ah m leavin' ten cents heah. Ah'm not gittin' but a han'ful, an' ah don' disturb yo' an' ah know yo ain't goin 'sturb me." Take a han'ful. Dat's all. An' yo put de ten cents down dere. Take it an' kiver it up an' pack it back. Turns right around an' don't say anothah word an' walk off - don't look back, go home. Well, if ah want one of mah neighbahs where ah'm livia'.ah don't want 'em livin' dere togethah, ah goes - when ah go out de path, walk a ways with it, an' take some of that dust dere, an' when ah come in dis house, ah come in on which- ever de left side is. Lak ah stands dere on de left side an' ah go ahead up to de do'step - any night dey sleep, not in de daytime. Ah ease down an' ah takes some in mah han' an' ah sprinkles it undah dat do'step, right along, right along out ah go till ah hit de road, jes' sprinklin' dis sand. Ah wouldn't leave off till ah hit de road, till ah git off dat path leadin' outa de house, right 'long dere. Now, dey got'a walk ovah dat. Dey goin' walk ovah dat. All right, in a week or so, dat man an' his wife, all of 'em will git dissatisfied, fights be goin' on an' dey won't stay dere no mo' - jes' move.
Entry 2503
Then agin, I git de graveyard dirt from somebody relative who is dead, [died] good -, ou know, make peace. Any person who dead, git dat dust you know. Den you git de white-horse manure, mix that with salt and sulphur, and sprinkle around yore place. An': hey'll [officers will] call round yore place but they'll go away - wouldn't stir about chuh.
(Keeps the law away.)
Keep away because yo' have a white horse in de pasture and dey'll tell de party, "Oh! Looks like a white horse." (That white horse keeps them away? This is supposed to be the white horse in the pasture?) Yes. See, if you have a white horse in de pasture, dat horse will fight all other horses, but dey never fight dat white horse. (Those other horses won't bother a white horse. That is why the white-horse manure is good.) Yes.
Entry 3036
Well, St. Peter, he's good and he's bad, but you gotta handle St. Peter so rough.
(You got to do what with him? Handle him rough?)
Yes, you gotta treat him dirty, whatever words I mean. If you drink, you gotta wet him with liquor. [See BEER FOR ST. PETER], and if you curse and live a bad life, you gotta be cursing. You gotta git up and pull your clothes up and pat yourself down there and all that. Then, if you promise him something and don't give it to him, he'll set your house afire. He won't burn up the whole house but he'll burn everything you got in the house and then the fire'll go out.
(How do you mean you pull your clothes up and pat yourself?)
Your backside to him.
(You show him your backside?)
Yes. You have to treat him dirty, treat him mean, on account of he was so mean. He wasn't what he professed to be. He was a follower of Christ and when Christ got into the judgment hall he didn't know nuthin about him. He got outside and go to fightin'. He cut the man's ear off. He was just a bad man, don't you see. And so you gotta handle him just like now as when he was on earth. Then [after you "treat him dirty"], you gotta handle him nice or he won't be bothered with you. You gotta give him keys too, because if you don't give him a key he'll keep every door shut and he'll not open the door for you.
Entry 8632
(All right. Now, you are going to tell something else, now? All right, go ahead.) Now, at that price, again, if yo' cannot break 'em, yo' get yo' three chicken eggs - three. Yo' write de names nine times on de chicken eggs, but let it be de yard eggs - fresh eggs. Yo' write dem [the man's name] nine times on that [informant demonstrates and I explain later]. Den yo' write her name nine times on de eggs, till yo' make it meet to de point of de eggs. (NoW Wait! You write - her name across his?) Yes, sir, always across. Now, when yo' git through dat - yo' see, dat's de point of de egg [demonstrates]. Yo write 'em just on de point of de egg until so far as yo' get.
(Right around the point of the egg.)
Right around de point. An' den at de othah point yo' do de same thing. Den yo' get yo' a bottle of dat french vinegar [wine, not apple, vinegar].
(French vinegar.)
Dat's de strongest vinegar they have. Den yo' get a dime of cayenne peppah. Den yo' get a - three lemons an' yo' cut dose lemons in four parts. De lemon....
(In four parts?)
In four parts. Den yo' take in de eggs [put eggs in bottle]. Den yo' take a piece of papah an' den yo' write dem nine times crossways like dat. See, an' den when yo' do dat, den yo' take a handful of de cayenne peppah an' set it right in de center - an' in de center of it. An' den yo' roll it to yuh. Den yo' makes yo' [a stopper] - yo' cuts, yo' gotta cut dis. An' when yo' get through it, den yo' put it in de mouth of de bottle, an' den yo' seal it up. Now, I guarantee yo' dat dat'll cook dat egg. It will cook. An' in de ninth day it'll give yo' de satisfaction, dey'll fight until dey bloody one anothah or murder one anothah, an' quit an' nevah go back any more, 'cause ah have did it. Ah have seed [seen] it.
(You use these three eggs.)
Yard eggs. (There's just one thing, one part of it that I don't understand about. Here're the eggs. Do you write the man's name [I demonstrate] around this way or this Way? You write this way?)
[Informant demonstrates.]
(You write it the length of the egg, from the two ends [from one end to the other]. And that woman's is written around the fat, small round part [breadth] of the egg. And you keep writing it up and down until you cover the whole egg.) The whole egg.
(I see. All right.)
Entry 10896
You take a black hen's egg, be sure it's a black hen's egg, and you boil it, and you doesn't get it completely done. Then you take and cut it in two, half in two, and if it's a woman and a man you want to break apart, separate, you get a male cat and a female dog, and give one half of the egg to the dog and the other half to the cat. And then they say after the dog and cat eat this egg, why, you make them fight. That's what separates them.
(Which half do you give to the dog and which half do you give to the cat?)
You take an indelible pencil and you write the man's name on one end and the woman's name on the other end of the egg. And you see, when it boiling, see, the name's right on through on the egg. And you see, you gave the man's name to the [male] cat and the woman's name to the [female] dog.
Entry 11358
Eel skin or blacksnake skin around waist makes wearer supple and slip- pery in wrestling; no one can throw you. Norfolk 488:2.
Entry 168
Dey say dat is de devil in his chariot an' if yo' wanta jes', yo' know, do wicked things, why yo' could git dat dust an' sprinkle roun' a person's premises. It will always keep a man an' his wife at arms at each othah. It will keep a household in confusion if yo' jes' take dat dust, yo' know, an' sprinkle it roun' dere premises; an' it will always be ways where they would be at arms at each othah, an' break up de peace of a home wit dat same dust.
Entry 183
This was during the period of influenza [World War I]. It happened between two women, both colored women, very superstitious. One had an argument with the other. One not wanting to get in a heated argument started to walk away and she was feeling sick. That was the beginning of that influenza that was going around all over the country. And this woman overtook her and started to fight and she pulled her hair and almost stripped her and she gave her a good beating. This woman turned around and said, "All right, you may go, but I will get you. If I die I will come back and I will haunt you. I will get you. [This is another example of bad mouth.] So they parted. The one that started the fight, thinking that she had the better hand, went merrily home, while the other went sadly home feeling sick from the pains of the disease and having got a good beating. That went on about three weeks without saying anything between them. The one that was sick soon died. The woman that had beat her made fun of her death. Many a month passed and she didn't give a thought to what this woman had told her. One afternoon she started to the store to get some coal oil, and - this was in a rural district where they did not have electric lights. She passed the cem- etery where this woman's body had been laid. She had a little child with her, a child of five. The child noticed it. There was something over on the grave the shape of a goat. The child said, "Mother, look at the goat on Hanna's grave, '' for that was the dead woman's name. The mother exclaimed to the child, "Oh, come on, that isn't anything but the devil holding Hanna down." The child went reluc- tantly, passed the cemetery but hesitated [stopped] to look down before having gone too far that the cemetery might not be seen. They went to the store and purchased the oil and on the way back the child exclaimed again, "Mother, there's the same goat on Hanna's grave." The mother said, "Oh, come on, I told you." She gave her a quick jerk. As she gave her the jerk there arose a whirlwind that twisted around the two of them. As it twisted around them it seem to grow hotter and hotter until it had thrown her down. After having thrown her down it continued to whirl. carrving them both within its grype [grip]. It twisted and turned them until the woman seemed to be exhausted. Finally, she lost consciousness. The child was afraid to leave its mother because darkness had almost covered the earth. The child stayed there until a passerby inquired why the mother was on the ground. Then the child ex- plained the whole detail to the passenger. They took the mother and carried her home and went for the doctor. And I drove the doctor there to the home of this woman. The story was told to the doctor while I sat and listened and as we came away from there I wanted to know from the doctor did he think that was true. The doctor being a very intelligent man, I thought he would tell me nothing but the truth. So he said to me that it Was the most mysterious case he had ever attended. The woman seemed to be like scalding water had been poured over her skin. He doesn't know about [the truth of the] story because he wasn't there, but there was something mysterious about it. Several times I inquired from the doctor and he wouldn't discuss it very much because he didn't want me to think that he was superstitious, nor did he want me to think that he believed in spooks. Yet, I think that he believed very strongly in the story that this woman told,-that it was a true experience. That Was about 1919 near St. Petersburg, Fl6rida. The doctor was white.
Entry 823
I know a lady whose husband would fight her quite often and he was noted for biting her when he fought her. And she was told, when he bit her severely, to go to the cemetery and get some of the dirt from the graveyard, and put on this where he bit her, and it would cause all of his teeth to drop out. (Did she do it?) Well, she went out there and put it on, but whether his teeth dropped out or not I don't know.
Entry 1982
Ah went to a man to make conditions better at home. He had me tuh git a dime an' he grind it up an' he had me git twelve needles an' he broken dem in parts an' he put 'em into a - he ball a cloth up, made a round ball out of it, an' had me to wear dat round mah waist an' put Hearts Cologne on it, an' each day that would bring happiness into mah home. (Did it?) Yes sir, it seemed to he'p - fact mah wife seemed to act bettah an' mah - were mo' together an' we got along bettah. Then, on another occasion ah was tryin' tuh find happiness. Ah went to one [another doctor] an' he tole me tuh go out to de graveyard. An' mah little baby had jest died about two mont's, an' he said reach mah han' down in dere jest at sundown as fur as ah could git it an' bring up some sand, an' take that clay an' parch it until it become where ah could handle it somepin lak sugah - he said, lak where it would be lak sugah. An' had me to take it an' go an' sprinkle some of it ovah mah mother's haid, an' she laid down an' sprinkle some in mah wife's haid, an' sprinkle some all through on de flo'. An' that brought mo' harm than evah befo'. We had been fussin' but we got tuh fighting. It ran me clean away from dere. Instead of bringin' together, it did mo' harm than it did good.
(What did he tell you to do this for?)
Tole me to do dat in order to bring happiness. Ah was seeking happiness. Ah wus tryin' tuh git mah - see, mah mother-in-law, seemed lak she didn't like me, an' mah sister-in-laws - ah jest couldn't git along wit de family. An' ah went to him - someone tole me to go to him an' ah went to him an' he had me to bring that to him an' go through dis performance with dis graveyard dirt. An' of course, instead of bringin' happiness, it got worse. An' on another occasion dat dis same gurl ran 'way from me - an' ah went around to one lady an' she had me to go lie down flat on mah back. Ah lie down flat on mah back, an' she put a dark cloth ovah mah face an' tole me to call her name, an' ah called her name. So she told me to go to Sarasota [Florida]. Ah went there an' ah found another one an' she tole me, "She's in St. Petersburg [Florida]." An' then ah went to one an' he give me help. He said that chew'll find her. Told me to go git two tater roots. [Potato in much of the South is sweet potato, not Irish potato.] Ah got two tater roots an' he tied 'em together an' told me to wear dat round mah waist, an' told me to go on an' when ah come to de first little town where ah could git a boat, go out into a boat an' throw dis ovah into de water, an' come on back and rest on it an' in a day or two she come up. Ah did that. Yes sir, she came back. (When she put a black cloth over your head, did she do anything else for you or did she just send you to another person?) She put the black cloth ovah mah haid when ah laid down. Den ah got up an' then she had me to read de 23rd Psalm, ah think it was, an' after ah read de 23rd Psalm, then she had me to stand up an' go through some motions with her, yo' see. She carry her han' out dat way an' up dis way [demonstrates]. An' she tole me tuh hole mah haid sidewards an' ah did that, an' then she begin tuh read [the cards] an' tell me various things. And of co'se from that, why she tole me tuh go an' ah went where she tole me, but ah did not find her.
(Well, after she finished with you, then she sent you on to somebody else?)
Yes sir. Once ah desire to go out an' ah couldn't go out an' ah went to a fortune- teller an' ah asked why. He tole me, said, "Yo' go home," he said, "an' yore wife has used de dishrag an' sewed it up in a mattress." He said, "When yo' kin ketch it - yore wife's off from de house, look in de middle of de mattress an' yo'll find dat dishrag. Take it an' go to back do' an' look towards de east an' wipe yoreself an' then go ahead an' throw de dishrag ovah de field - ovah there some place." An' he says, "Yo'll find complete results." An' ah did it an' ah really got results. That had me tied. Ah used that an' soon find out. [Dishrag is a widespread cure for impotence caused by tying.]
Entry 2781
Said a pink candle fer good luck. Jest burn it, all ah know. Say a black candle means death to a person. A red candle is fusses, quarrels and fights. Dat's all ah've heard about dat.
(What about a white candle? Would a white candle do anything?)
Ah've nevah heard. Ah 'pose dat brings peace.
Entry 4071
An' if yuh don' wanta work it lak dat, yuh kin take a man's sock, if he's jis' as cruel, jis' so cruel yuh an' 'im can't hardly live togethah, yuh kin take his sock an' put it in - pick up one de bricks out de hearth an' yuh puts it in dis hole. Well, yuh goes dere an' yuh takes an' uri- nate on it, yuh know whut dat is - on it fo' nine mawnin's. An' dat'll make him jis' as nice tuh yuh as he kin be. He won' fight chew any mo' an' he'll jis' take ca' [care] of 'is wife or woman, jis' lak a man should. Yuh has tuh let it stay dere now fo' nine mawnin's, an' aftah yuh do dat, why yuh know dat chew got 'im.
Entry 4817
Lak yuh'd wanta make two mens fight, fall out chew know. If yuh could git a string of each one's shirttail an' tie it tuhgethah, dey'll have a fuss an' fight.
(These two men would.)
Entry 5744
Ah know about whut chew do wit de tracks. If yo' have a enemy or any- thin', anybody dislak yo' or anythin', an' dey wan' chew tuh leave town or sompin lak dat. Dey'll meet chew an' git chure track an' take it an' mix some dog hair an' cat hair. Yo' know cats an' dogs disagrees in anythin' lak dat. An' takes nine straight pins an' ben' dem tuhgethah, an' put dem in de fo'ks of de road, an' yo'll leave town. An' if it's a woman an' a man dat loved one anothah an' de' meet one 'nothah ag'in, dey be hatin' one 'nothah jis' lak cats an' dogs, be mad an' wanta fight an' kill up one 'nothah. No mattah how good dey is in love, dey git apart.
(This is to separate a man and his wife. Whose foot track do you take?)
Take his'n an' hers. Take his'n, yo' know, de lef' goin', an' bring it up ob yo' lak dis, an' take hers an' bring it up tuh yo'. An' mix it tuhgethah dt de hair out yore haid, if yo' kin git it. Eithah if yo' cain't git de hair oat dere haid, den git de dog's hair - yo' know, de bristles an' de cat's bris- tles, an' mix it tuhgethah wit nine straight [bent] pins.
(Wait a minute! You take the man's left foot, you say?)
De lef' foot track.
(And what about the woman's?)
Take de lef'. Uh-huh, take one goin' an' de othah one comin'. Dere's one aiie' one way an' de othah one comin' de othah way.
(Whose do you take going?)
Take de man's goin' or eithah de woman - it don' make no diff'rence, so dere's e goin' one way an' de othah one comin' de othah.
(And you bury this out at the forks of the road?)
At de fo'ks of de road, but chew mix dem cat bristles an' dog bristles wit dat track. Den take nine straight pins an' bend 'em. [Waycross, Ga., (093, 1760:6.]
Entry 7557
Yuh kin go tuh de graveyard an' dig down fer about seven or eight, or nine inches; but it must be de grave of a very crim'nal person, a person dat killed an' cut, dat yuh know of, dat wuz buried in dat pah- tic'lah place. Well yuh git de dirt out of dat grave dere an' yuh sprinkle it undah de doorstep in de front an' in de back, where dey have tuh cross ovah all de time. An' de evil from dat dead man will jis' natchly entah dat household an' de people dere'll begin tuh disagree, an' fuss an' fight, an' event'ly dey'll move away.
Entry 7684
Yo' go tuh a - if somebody troublin' yo' an' yo' jis' want 'em tuh git in trouble, see. Yo' go tuh a sinnah - yo' gotta know somebody wuz a wicked sinnah an' got killed - yo' see, a gamblah. Yo' go tuh 'is haid an' dig down about wrist deep. An' put three pen- nies dere an' jis' tell it - jis' lak yo' talkin' tuh in - jis' lakyo' know'im, say, "so- an'-so-an'-so, ah wan' chew tuh go tuh Such-an'-such-a-one an' give dem hell, jis' give dem hell. Wham! Fight 'em, make 'em fight. Make 'em kill if it's necessary." An' yo' put de pennies dere. Kivah [cover] de hole up an' go off. Walk off an' nevah look back. Yo' take dat graveyard dirt an' yo' ketch yore dog an' cut some hair off de end of 'is tail, see. All right, yo' ketch chew a ket [cat]. Yo' cut some hair off 'is haid an' 'is tail. An' yo' take dat dog an' cut jis' a li'le bit of hair out 'is fo'haid. Yo' git some of dis urinate, see. All right yo' git yo' some red peppah, table salt, put wit dat. An' yo go by where dem people stay an' jis' tell 'em [dirt and its ingredients] what chew want 'em do wit it. An' throw it.] Don't evah look back, keep goin'. An yo' ain't goin' be a minute off fo' yo' see 'em raisin' Sam [Sam = devil]. Dey goin' move from dere. Aftah while dey goin' move from dat state.
(That is to run them out of there, run them away.)
Dat's tuh run 'em away. Dat's hard tuh ovahcome. Now ah heah'n [heard] a man tell dat an' ah seen it work. See, fo' a fact he used tuh git me tuh go by dere sometime an' throw it dere. Dis ole Doctor Bush.
Entry 7742
Yo' take a lettah. Well, if she's round in town, yo' go tuh de woman's house, or whosomevah's house she's at, an' yo' draw a cross mark lak dis an' yol take sulphuh an' yo' take graveyard dirt. An' git de graveyard dirt from a sinnah [sinner's grave]. An' draw yore mark an' call dere name an' yo' put yore peppah, nine pods of red peppah. Den yo' take de sulphuh an' put it cross. Den yo' [do] lak dat wit graveyard dirt.
(Making the form of a cross all the time.)
Yes. "An' let 'im walk 'cross dat. See, he goin' walk 'cross it if he come out. Well, in nine days him an' her will start fightin' jes' lak cat's an' dogs, an' it won't be long befo' he's goin' tuh break up [leave her].
(That is to separate them. That is going to make them quarrel, isn't it?)
Well, dis is gonna break 'im up, yo' see.
Entry 7870
Take some graveyard dirt, a li'le bit of it an' a li'le bit of salt, an' eithah sprinkle it roun' de house or eithah 'neath de house. An' dat'll make him leave or eithah have a fight. [Florence, S. Car. (1323), 2268:4.]
The informant describes graveyard dirt mixed with salt and reports departure or fighting as alternatives; the account does not establish an observed effect.
Entry 7883
Or eithah yo' go tuh a graveyard late at night an' stick yuh arm as far down in de fresh grave as yo' kin, an' git some of dat graveyard dirt out. Well [rooster crows] yo' git back, take it, bluestone, salt, red peppah an' mix it tuhgethah, an' put it undah de cornah of a person house. Dey'll fuss an' fight all de time until yo' git dat removed. When yo' git dat away from dere, den dey quits fussin' an' fightin'. Dey don't fuss an' fight no more. But long as dat dere an' dey don't know where it is, dey goin' tuh fuss an' fight an' kill one anothah maybe, all de time. Yo' gotta git somebody dat knows [what to do - a hoodoo doctor.]
The informant describes fresh-grave dirt mixed with bluestone, salt and red pepper beneath a house corner, with reported conflict while it remains and relief on removal. The rooster interruption and final explanation of someone who knows what to do are editorial context.
Entry 8229
Tuh break up a home, well yo' kin take gunpowdah.
(How would you use that?)
Well yo' would take de gunpowdah an' yo' draw a pichure lak it's fo' two peo- ple. Yo' draw 'em jis' lak dey goin' tuh fight - yo' know how chil'ren kin draw funny pichures - jis' lak dey goin' tuh fight. Yo' takes de gunpowdah an' nine pinches of salt, an' nine pinches of red peppah, an' yo' put it in de stove an' make yure wishes. An' dat breaks 'em up. (Well, what do you do with the picture then?) Well, yo' take de pichure perhaps an' stand it on de head an' put it in a dark closet.
(No, this picture that you draw. What do you do with that?)
Oh, what you drew. Yo' burns dat. Yo' writes dere names on dis papah. Yo' draws on a plain piece of white papah, den yo' takes dis pichure, de man's havin' a fight, yo' puts de gunpowdah in dere, nine pinches, nine pinches of salt, an' nine pinches of cayenne peppah, red peppah. An' den yo' put it in de stove fo' nine mawnin's.
(I see, you put the stuff into the picture?)
Yeah.
(You have to draw that thing nine times?)
Uh-huh. Yo' don't have tuh draw it zactly [exactly] lak 'em, but yo' draw it lak a man if yo' kin or do it lak a woman, see.
(Well, do you do that over again and again?)
Ovah ag'in fer nine mawnin's.
Entry 8656
Just like if yo' wanta dere's a woman dat ah was livin' wit an' she's livin' wit someone else an' ah want tuh put 'em in hot watah. What ah mean, ah want tuh keep 'em afightin' dat dey can't git along. Ah go an' ah gets me a lemon, an' ah cuts dis lemon open. Ah get me a fresh box of cayenne peppah an' gunpowdah. Ah mix 'em up de same amount an' puts it intuh dis lemon. An' ah puts dere name in it. Dat is if ah ain't got none of 'er wearin' [clothes], see. Ah buries dis upside down. Every mornin' ah boils me a pot of watah 'fore sunrise an' ah pours it on dat. Yo' see. An' dat keeps 'em in a uproar all de time.
Entry 9093
If a person have a fight, a purtty bad fight chew know, an' ah know de man's goin' git me - all of it fell on me becuz ah done mo' den 'nuff, an' ah know it's goin' fall on me, an' dunno [don't know] whut tuh do. Aw, ah'm jes' cryin' an' a-grievin', ah dunno whut tuh do. "Lawd, ah know ah'll gits a whole lotta time." An' ah don' wanta [get time]. Heah comes somebody, says, "Oh, dat's so bad. Ah heared of yore troubles." Says, "Well, ah tell yo'," says, "yo' ain't got no money an' yore po' an' yo'll pay fo' it." Says, "But chew kin git a li'le, prob'ly a dollah or two, but chew will git chew some luck." "Well, where will ah go?" "Ah know a man [doctor] live right ovah dere, right straight ovah dere. Ah know he'll fix yo' up." "Well, ah shore hope so becuz ah'm fed up. Ah dunno whut tuh do." Says, "Yo' go ovah dere. He's a good man. He's a high-class man. He knows stuff." Yo' walk in an' he [doctor] says, "Hello, dere. Yo's in trouble dis mawnin', ain't chah?" "Yes." Says, "Yo's in trouble," says, "yo' goin' have a lawsuit an' yo' come out heah fo' he'p?" [For some of the methods used by doctors when greeting patients, see CONSULTATION TECHNIQUE, PP.307-319.] "Yes." Okay. "Well, ah tell yo' right now, it goin' cost chew five dollahs, an' ah give yo' somepin othah. An' yo' take dis an' yo' go up dere [to court]. Dey jes' ast yo' a few questions. Den come on out." He goes back an' gives 'im a li'le piece of root about two inches, ah reckon. Dere's three notches cut intuh dis root, an' de notch is cut in dere to represent de Fathah an' de Son an' de Holy Ghost. Dat takes ca' [care] of dat. Yo' know whut dat means. Dat's [case is] out. Dat's throwed out. Dey jes' say, "Out."
(That's in a court case?)
Dat's throwed out.
Entry 9276
Git a black hen aig. Yo' take it an' throw it on de house an' dat'll make 'em - make 'em all stir up in de house, an' make 'em fuss all de time wit dat.
Entry 9354
[This rite and the two following ones come from Vicksburg, Miss. These three informants bear informant numbers 734, 736 and 738. Three consecutive informants telling the same story is not a chance occurrence, one of them having given the material to the other two. Two persons occasionally did this, especially man and wife, sisters or brothers, but the present three are probably my only example. May I add that this sort of thing never happened among professional informants.] If yo' got a wife an' ah wants tuh separate yo'all... (If I have a wife and you want to separate me.)...an' wants to separate chew, see. Ah don't have tuh take an' go tuh work an' git no lodestone or nuthin tuh separate chuh. Ah come tuh yuh house an' sit down dere an' talk wit chuh. Ah have a rotten aig in mah pocket. Ah'll git tuh yuh baid an' ah'll slip it in yuh baid, right where yo' lay. Ah'll slip it in de middle of yuh baid. Yo' go tuh baid at night, yo'all. Yo' an' 'er may lay down dere laughin' an' talkin' an' playin'. See, good humored wit one anothah, but whenevah yo' turn ovah on dat aig an' bust dat aig, yo' see, it'll fill de baid wit scent. Right dere where's it's goin' tuh start de devil in yuh house, yo' see. De minute dat chew ketch dat scent, yo' gon'a wanta know from dat wo- man whut de heck. What kinda scent dis in heah. See. "Yo' done had some man in dis baid." See. Well, right dere where's be a fussin' an' fightin'. Yo' goin' tuh jump up an' beat dat woman right away from dere. Well, yo' see, dat woman ain't comin' back 'cuz yo' beat 'er up, accuse 'er fo' nuthin.
(I see.)
Entry 9430
They take a black hen egg an' cayenne peppah an' guinea watah - er, yes - an' chuck it at yore door.
(What is that? What else do they take, now?)
Cayenne peppah, yes; a black hen egg...
(A black hen egg and then what?)
An' guinea - not guinea. Aw shucks they call it...
A black chicken egg, cayenne peppah...
(Yes, all right.)
An' yo' mix dat togethah.
(What do you mix now, what kind of water?)
War water!
(Oh! All right!)
An' yo' take an' yo' chuck it at dere door. Now, yo' see, yo' take a black hen egg by itself an' yo' chuck dat at yore door fo' nine mornings, an' dat makes yo' move an' makes yo' an' yore husband or yo' an' yore neighbor fight until yo' go to jail. (I see. All right.) Now, dat war water, just sprinkle it all around yore door. An' yo' just take a whole bottle of it an' mix it wit cayenne peppah an' den chunk it an' it busts at yore door. Yo' are sure to go to jail.
(I see.)
Entry 10548
If dey wanta sell deyself tuh de devil, in lotta cases tuh de fo'ks of de road, dey makes a trip down dere nine successful [successive] mawnin's an' de ninth [morning] de devil 'sposed tuh meet chew dere. An' so he an' de devil come tuh a 'greement on dat, an' de devil give him a cer- tain length of days an' yeahs - see, he gi's 'im [gives him] all dat power. Den he turn himself loose tuh him. Dat's death. Now, yo' go dere [to the forks of the road] fo' mo' den one purpose. Ah may be lak ah wuz dancin'. Ah goes tuh de fo'ks of de road fo' nine mawnin's, tuh see if dere anything dat would be in de way; see, tuh pacify yo'. Yo' go fo' nine mawnin's. Yo' go fo' nuthin [but] good, yo' goes in de Name of God, de Father, God de Son an' God de Holy Ghost. Now, when yo' goes fo' de bad, yo' takes de devil, an' all his temptin' ways tuh do de evil things. Well, yo' go dere. Ah'm comin' tuh do good an' yo' comin' tuh do de harm. [Informant demonstrates all this!] Now, ah'll come down In de Name of de Father, Son an' de Holy Ghost, down heah, see, tuh do de good; an' yo' come up heah in de way of de devil an' all his imps tuh do de harm. Well, when ah git up heah, ah beat chew an' we have a fight right heah. All right, if ah whup yo' heah, see, ah call yore name heah an' turn yo' back. Now, dose all sech things yo' do's at de hour in de mawnin' jes' befo' sun- rise. Dat whut chew do at de fo'ks of de road. [Between informant's treatment of me and my being on the devil's side, author appears to have had a hard time!]
Entry 9560
Well, jes' lak yo' got a good ole man an' sometimes dey begrudge yo', well, yo' jes' sprinkle salt an' cayenne peppah aroun' every mawnin' fo' nine mawnin's, an' dat keeps up a disturbance - keep 'em fightin' an' fussin'.
(That breaks you [a family] up.)
Entry 9653
He say him an' 'is wife couldn't git along an' dey's fussin' an' fightin' all de time an' he wanted tuh leave huh. An' he say a man tole 'im tuh do dat an' she would leave.
(Tell me just what he did, now.)
Say, he tole me, git a teaspoon fulla black peppah an' a teaspoon fulla table slt an' mix it tuhgethah, an' throw it in de fiah three times an' leave dere. An' he [man supplying rite] say she would leave. An' he said he did it but she left.
(He did it three times in the same day?)
He done it fo' three days.
(Did he do it at any special time of the day?)
He tole 'im do it in de mawnin'.
Entry 10865
Take de hair from a cat - hair from a cat an' salt an' throw it in a room an' start fusses an' fights in a room, but yo' supposed tuh git it from undah his tail.
Entry 10879
Now, yo' see dis heah - dis may sound crazy tuh yo'. Yo' kin ketch yo a cat an' git two of his whiskers, any kinda cat black or white. Yo' kin git two of his whiskers. Jis' lak i yo' mah husban' an' ah want chew fo' mah man. Jis' take 'em in de house an' have 'em crossed, an' jis' walk on de flo' lak dis, jis' lak yo' sittin', an' drop 'em down behin' [you], yo' know, an' walk on out. An' he'll strictly leave there. [Did she demonstrate this rite!] Ah'm tellin' yo' whut ah know. See, mah daddy befo' he died [told me things?]. He wuz kinda smart... Ah don't know things good enough but some things ah really knows. Yo' ketcha live cat an' pull 'em outa his whiskers; see, a live cat, an' drop 'em an' walk on outa dere. Drop 'em in there. They can't git along fo' quarrel- in' an' arguin'. Quite natural yo' cain't live with a person fo' quarrelin' an' arguin'. Yo' ain't goin' stay there no mo'. It'll sure break it up [the home].
Entry 10901
Well, you see you gotta ketch a bulldog when he is mad...a real furious dog - gotta ketch a bad dog, and you ketch a cat and take the hair off his [cat's] back and the hair off the dog's back and you mix them together and you will put gunpowder in that and you burn them down.
(Where do you burn that?)
Burn dat in your stove. If you got a fireplace in the stones.
(What are you supposed to do then?)
That supposed to make anger, fuss, the one who you want to break up. (Well, how do you know which one to do that to? Do you do anything about that?) Well, like if I know you and I wanted to break your home up, I'll take your name and put it down and write, you have to write your name practically with most of the witchcraft work. (Oh! I see, you have to burn that with the name then? This paper and this hair together.) All in there and the gunpowder. Makes them fighting and fussing. Just like the cat and dog will fight, dat's de way you will do. Well, one or the other of you going get tired and leave.
Entry 10917
Tie together hair from dog's back and hair from cat's back and nail it some place; every time they meet they will fight. [Richmond, Va., 306:2.]
Entry 10918
Mix cat hair and dog hair, burn, put ashes in house to cause disagreements, fighting, etc. [Richmond, Va., 378:4.]
Entry 10921
Make a cat and dog fight, take hair from each, burn this on the prop- erty line between the parties you want to have fight. [Norfolk, Va., 492:4.]
Entry 11228
Well, yo' supposed tuh git it offa sinner, like yo' know a person's died a sinner - git it offa de breast of him. Imagine where de breast should be. Yo' git dat dirt. Take yo' left han' an' git dat, a left handful of dat dirt. Well, yo' takes cayenne pepper and table salt and dis ole dirt dauber dat be's in houses up in de walls. Yo' mix dat tuhgethah. Say dat'll make a fuss anywhere. It will even cause de law tuh come tuh yore place.
(Well, what do you do with this after you mix it up?)
After yo' mix it up, jest put it where yo' want it tuh be. Jest like if yo' are angry wit someone, or somebody yo' know is bothering yo' or sompin. Well, yo' wants dem tuh move or git on out de way. Yo' jest throw it where it can be tracked in dat house. Dey'll go tuh fighting and de law goin' come.
Entry 11317
(What's that?)
(Bull dog manure?)
Bull dog manure. They'll take bull dog manure and wasp nest. Parch them down to a powder. It'll 'come pulverized like powder. Put them together and mix them. Come to your home where you and your wife been getting along nice and smooth Walk right in that home and talk with your old woman, just come right in the house and throw it around.
(Just sprinkle it around?)
Yes. You begin to squabble and fight and the next thing you know, why one of you is gone away from there.
(I see.) I see.)
Entry 12443
Well, dey didn't tell me no certain 'mount, but dey jes' say yo' kin use mockin'bird eggs an' yo' kin separate a couple wit mockin'bird aigs. (How can you do that?) Yo' cook dem aigs. See, dey'll git hard. Under- stand. Cook 'em an' yo' powder dem aigs up, an' den yo' kin sprinkle dat round a person's house or inside dey house, an' dat'll separate dem. Dey always said dat mockin'birds would be - he would make his nest but he would soon tear it down. He wouldn't nevah stay. An' dat's de reason why dey could take dat an' yo' [dey] kin sprinkle it round yore house an' in de house, an' dat'll shore make a couple spearate, fuss, yo' know, have argu- ments an' all like dat.
Entry 12612
Take sugah an' peppah an' sprinkle it down in dere an' dey'll fuss all de time.
(This man and woman will fuss and fight?)
Yes sir, dey'll fuss an' fight all de time, long as dat sugah an' stuff stays round in dere.
Entry 12614
Ah've heard people say yo' could take red pep- pah an' throw it round de house. Yo' know red peppah is fussin' anyway [causes a fuss]. Take red peppah an' throw it around de house. Or eithah burn it an' sulphur where dey kin git de scent of it, chew know.
(What would that do to them, then?)
It would cause confusion an' fussin' an' fights.
Entry 12739
Ah say yo' kin make a family break up easy if yo' want tuh. Jes' lak ah wanta git rid of Doc an' his wife, make 'em fuss. Git some rattan root or bush an' tie it up together an' put it to dere house, or either hide it jes' anywhere in de house. Every time dey come in dey'll be fightin' an' fussin'.
(Rattan. What does it look like?)
Yo' know de rattan. It's sompin dat bends so [demonstrates an arch] in de woods. Yo' know how it bends an' twists, yo' know. Grow in de swamps.
(Do they make baskets out of that?)
Some people do, yes sir. Now, it'll break up any home in de world if yo' cut up dat. Git de root of dat an' put it in de house, dey shore goin' tuh squabble. [I am unable to identify informant's rattan.]
Entry 13091
(Yes, how the quarrel started.)
De first thing, he had a mule named Julia. When ah wuz a boy dey used to have gin house whut dey pull mill round tuh gin cotton. See. Dey didn't have dese steam gins den. Out in de country dey had eight mules to it [etc.], have de first mule heah, one on dat end, one ovah heah and one ovah dere, and den dey have two mules heah and two mules ovah dere an' ah used to dirve de mules. So his mule would bite cha an' so ah wouldn't carry his mule, so he whupped me be- cause ah wouldn't carry it fo' him. Him an' I - his boy an' I got in a fight - so ah whupped him. An' so he whupped me again.
(The father?)
Yassuh, de father - ole man Spencer whupped me. So we boys met him [son] one night an' - ah didn't hit him but ah mean de other boys [did]. An' so ah left mah cap at his house. An' mah uncle Winston tole me he'd taken dis [capl de shed of a rattlesnake and rubbed de band of mah hat [capl. An' when ah sweated...an when ah put it on mah haid, my eyes went an' ah ain't saw no mo' since.
(When did this happen?)
1904.
(And this happened up in Perry county?)
Dat's Perry County, Alabama, Scott Station.
(Got it dry and took this dust and put it in your hatband and made you blind?)
Yes.
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Yo' take chamber lye an' peppah an' throw it undah de house at night, red peppah, an' if dey keep movin' in dere it'll burn it up - it'll ketch afiah
[afire]. (What did you put that under the house for?) Fo' movin'. (So when people come into the house, that'll cross the house up and.)
Cross de house up an' make it crossed. Make a cross jis' befo' throwin' dat undah - jis' befo'.
(Where do they make the cross?)
On de ground, near de house. (They cross the house up so that nobody can stay in it. If I had a fight with the landlord or anything of that sort?) Yes.
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Well, they have war water. See, you get a small bottle of war water and sprinkle it wherever this - jes' like if a person is - you is close neigh- bors to them, you can put it in their scrub water, you know, when you see them mopping or anything like that. You kin put it in their scrub water. If not, you can take war water and jes' sprinkle it around that house and the police will come there and they'll have all kinds of confusion - they jes' be fighting all the time, will soon break up.
(I see. This man and woman.)
Entry 337
I've heard about dat but I don' know if it be true. But one thing about it - you have to visit the four forks of the road for nine mornings. On de ninth morning that you visit dere, you'll find de devil. He'll meet you at de four forks of de road and yo' and him'll git together, and then you'll have a good Wras'lin' [wrestling match] and he'll ast you what you want. And you'll tell him that you want the world's gifts for twenty years or thirty years - just how long you want 'em. Now, when de time runs out, dat's when de devil's coming for you. Well, when he comes for you, you might stoop down and cut off a piece of your shoe sole and hand to him, and he'll tell you that you got de world again and you kin go, and you sure enough got him if you kin stand to face him. And you do anything that you Want to do, wras'lin', fightin' - anything of the kind.
(I see - but you have to fight him out there at the crossroad?)
Yes sir, fight him dere - then he turn you loose and tell you it is all right, go for yourself.
[A few minutes later my informant added a musical note.]
Go out to de four forks of de road for nine mornings and he'll play something; play the guitar, play a banjo. He'll visit de devil out dere for nine mornings and he'll give you de world's gifts. Just ask [for] anything - a gold-finding hand - or you kin play all de music you want, nobody kin beat you playing.
The informant reports a fighting episode in lore introduced as heard and of uncertain truth.
Entry 916
(Testing the stylus, Brunswick, Georgia, Monday, March 13, 1939. This morning it was very cold. Yesterday, I heard [when I telephoned my wife that night], there was sleet and snow - wind with snow in New York City. And there was quite a strong wind last night too - and all the dust came into the room. [This was an unusual experience, dust and sand covering everything.] That hotel is certainly old-fashioned over there. [The hotel, The Oqlethorpe, was designed by Stanford White (1853-1906), murdered in another of his buildings, Madison Square Garden, Madison Square, N. Y. C., by Harry K. Thaw - one of the great American scandals.]
[I now talk with my contact man, Edward.]
(What about those two men getting into a fight out there yesterday - those two root doctors?) We's goin' to reliver [redeliver] dem in dis mawnin' if we can.
(I see. Well, how did they get into that argument?)
Well, one man wanta be better'n de othah one.
(What did the other fellow say to him?)
Well, de othah fellah tole him he could make him crawl on his belly like a roach, but he said he couldn't do it.
(They had an argument in other words.)
Dey had a arguments ovah it, yassuh.
(I had the same thing happen up in Charleston, once - two fellows [doctors]
got into a fight [see Index Doctors fight].) The othah one got mad an' left 'cause de othah one had got de last of him.
(The next number will be 1183.)
The interviewer calls the incident a fight; the reply describes an argument. Physical violence is not established.